Yesterday, as I was in my parents’ kitchen talking to them, a little body comes flying in the door and hugs me.
“I didn’t know you were here!” says Vanessa. Before I could say anything else, she accuses, “And you went to see the Pope! And you didn’t take ME!”
Here’s the part where I stand here and look a little stupid. Why? Because, 1. I had no idea Nessie would want to go with me and 2. Vanessa (her mother legally changed her name to Vasaliki a few years back) is Greek Orthodox.
I’m not so sure her mother would want me to take her 9-year-old little girl to see the Bishop of Rome. But how to explain this to Va? So, I tell her that our churches are very similar, but there’s a difference in that her church doesn’t see the Bishop of Rome as her head. (Don’t they look to the Bishop of Constantinople?) She looks blankly at me, then says, “Oh! I know the bishops! We see them all the time!” Mmmm. Not quite what I meant. Let’s try again.
“Do you know about the filioque?”
“The what?” (Yeah, I predicted that answer….)
“Well, we believe that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and from the Son; your church believes that it just comes from the Father.”
“Right! Father, Son and Holy Spirit!”
“No, no. I mean that the Holy Spirit comes from both, not just the one.”
“Right! The Holy Spirit comes from the Father and the Son!” (Oops! I may have just bridged the schism.)
And, Vanessa’s reflections on Mass, “Sometimes, the priest will talk really fast, and I can’t understand what he’s saying, so I’ll just sit there and think about what I will do for the rest of the day. I’ll be like, ‘Do I want to ride my bike, or watch TV?’.”
And on speaking Greek:
“Okay, Ness, my priest speaks Greek, teach me something I can say to him.”
“Like what?”
“I don’t know. Maybe something you say to your Mom.”
She says a phrase that I repeat. “Okay, what did I say?”
“I love you.”
“Um, maybe teach me a different phrase? I’m not sure he’d take that too well.”
She says another phrase, which I repeat. “And what’s that?”
“Good morning.”
“Well, that’s better. Hmmm. I’m sure he’ll be thrilled to know that I can now say ‘Good morning! I love you!’ in Greek!”
And then, my Orthodox-corrupting is interrupted when her brother, Petros, comes in to tell her that Grandpa needs her to come home to help clean the fish (calamari). :)
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1 Kasia // May 5, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Hee hee!
OK, let me see if I can ’splain the Orthodox bishop thing…to the best of my understanding, that is…
Yes, they look to the Bishop of Constantinople. But to the best of my knowledge, they don’t swear obedience/fidelity to him. He’s sort of a…well, the Latin term is “primus inter pares” - first among equals. Kind of like the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He doesn’t actually have that much more clout than the other metropolitans (say, the Bishop of Moscow or the Bishop of Alexandria).
So you have, say, the Greek Orthodox Church. You also have the Russian Orthodox Church, the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Antiochan Orthodox Church, the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, etc. Right?
Well, those are called “autocephalous” churches - meaning they are independent. Technically the Bishop of Constantinople is the “head”, but he’s really not got any more authority than the other major bishops. Not in practical terms, anyway. There is no “Rome (or Constantinople) has spoken; the matter is settled.”
So whereas the Pope is the top of our pyramid, their pyramid top is wider and there’s no point (unless you count God).
Make sense?
2 Jaibee // May 5, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Ahahahaha! I can just imagine trying to explain that to Ness! “Honey, there’s no point to your church!”
Might be taken a little wrong…. :)
3 Kasia // May 5, 2008 at 1:49 pm
ROFL. Yes, I think I would phrase it differently. Especially as she’s not (for example) a Unitarian-Universalist…
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